Discussion:
[k-9-mail] Lock screen notifications settings don’t work
Joé McKen
2018-03-14 07:33:47 UTC
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Hello,

I have a problem where whatever setting I choose under Settings →
Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications (such as “Application name”,
“Message count and senders”, etc.) is ignored; K-9 notifications are always
the same regardless. This changes when I hide subject lines under Settings
→ Privacy → Hide subject in notifications, in which case my “Lock Screen
Notifications” setting is *still* ignored, but I get a different
notification instead.

The only “Lock Screen Notifications” setting that *does* work is “No lock
screen notifications”, which hides them as expected.

I’ve run a battery of tests, and here’s a table of the results, formatted
to replicate the text of the notifications I receive with each setting
combination:

╔══════════════════════════════╩═════════════════════════════════════════╩
════════════════════════════════════╗
║ ║ *Hide Subject OFF* ║ *Hide
Subject ON* ║
╠══════════════════════════════╬═════════════════════════════════════════╬══
═════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ *No lock screen notifications* ║ [none] │
[none] ║
║ ║
│ ║
║ ║
│ ║
╠══════════════════════════════
╬──────────────────────────────────┌────────────────────────────────────╣
║ *App name* ║ K-9 Mail · <***@gmail.com> │ K-9
Mail ║
║ ║ *<Sender Name>* │ *<#>
Unread (<***@gmail.com>)* ║
║ ║ <subject line> │ New
mail ║
╠══════════════════════════════
╬──────────────────────────────────┌────────────────────────────────────╣
║ *Unread count* ║ K-9 Mail · <***@gmail.com> │ K-9
Mail ║
║ ║ *<Sender Name>* │ *<#>**
Unread (<***@gmail.com>)* ║
║ ║ <subject line> │ New
mail ║
╠══════════════════════════════
╬──────────────────────────────────┌────────────────────────────────────╣
║ *Message count and senders* ║ K-9 Mail · <***@gmail.com> │ K-9
Mail ║
║ ║ *<Sender Name>* │ *<#>
Unread (<***@gmail.com>)* ║
║ ║ <subject line> │ New
mail ║
╠══════════════════════════════
╬──────────────────────────────────┌────────────────────────────────────╣
║ *Same as unlocked* ║ K-9 Mail · <***@gmail.com> │ K-9
Mail ║
║ ║ *<Sender Name>* │ *<#>
Unread (<***@gmail.com>)* ║
║ ║ <subject line> │ New
mail ║
╚══════════════════════════════╩═════════════════════════════════════════╩══
═════════════════════════════════════════╝

As it stands, my options are a) notifications that show everything (bad for
privacy), or b) notifications that only show the number of unread emails in
each account’s inbox. I would prefer “Message count and senders”, if it
worked; that would tell me all I need to know without sensitive personal
information to a snoop.

I’m using K-9 Mail v5.403 (the latest as of this writing) on an Asus
Zenfone 3 (ZE552KL) with Android 8.0.

Does anyone else have this problem? And is there any way to fix it?

My thanks to anyone who replies.
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Joé McKen
2018-03-14 07:54:04 UTC
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Hello,

I have a problem where whatever setting I choose under Settings →
Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications (such as “Application name”,
“Message count and senders”, etc.) is ignored; K-9 notifications are always
the same regardless. This changes when I hide subject lines under Settings
→ Privacy → Hide subject in notifications, in which case my “Lock Screen
Notifications” setting is *still* ignored, but I get a different
notification instead.

The only “Lock Screen Notifications” setting that *does* work is “No lock
screen notifications”, which hides them as expected.

I’ve run a battery of tests, and here’s a table of the results for each
setting combination:


*Hide Subject OFF*

*No lock screen notifications:* [none]

*App name:* K-9 Mail · <***@gmail.com>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>

*Unread count:* K-9 Mail · <***@gmail.com>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>

*Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail · <***@gmail.com>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>

*Same as unlocked:* K-9 Mail · <***@gmail.com>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>


*Hide Subjects ON*

*No lock screen notifications:* [none]

*App name:* K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread
(<***@gmail.com>)*
New mail

*Unread count:* K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread
(<***@gmail.com>)*
New mail

*Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread
(<***@gmail.com>)*
New mail

*Same as unlocked:* K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread
(<***@gmail.com>)*
New mail


As it stands, my options are a) notifications that show everything (bad for privacy),
or b) notifications that only show the number of unread emails in each
account’s inbox. I would prefer “Message count and senders”, if it worked;
that would tell me all I need to know without sensitive personal
information to a snoop.

I’m using K-9 Mail v5.403 (the latest as of this writing) on an Asus
Zenfone 3 (ZE552KL) with Android 8.0.

Does anyone else have this problem? And is there any way to fix it?

My thanks to anyone who replies.
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Joé McKen
2018-11-12 06:24:04 UTC
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For the record, I still need help with this, if anyone’s around.

New phone: Samsung Galaxy S8+
New Android: v8.0.0
New K-9 Mail: v5.600
Same problem. Lock screen notifications either display everything – sender,
subject, body, etc. – or (with “Hide subjects in notifications” enabled)
only which account received the email and the email count. The granular
control under Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications doesn’t work at all.

Would really appreciate any help here.
Post by Joé McKen
Hello,
I have a problem where whatever setting I choose under Settings →
Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications (such as “Application name”,
“Message count and senders”, etc.) is ignored; K-9 notifications are always
the same regardless. This changes when I hide subject lines under Settings
→ Privacy → Hide subject in notifications, in which case my “Lock Screen
Notifications” setting is *still* ignored, but I get a different
notification instead.
The only “Lock Screen Notifications” setting that *does* work is “No lock
screen notifications”, which hides them as expected.
I’ve run a battery of tests, and here’s a table of the results for each
*Hide Subject OFF*
*No lock screen notifications:* [none]
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
*Hide Subjects ON*
*No lock screen notifications:* [none]
*App name:* K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread
New mail
*Unread count:* K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread
New mail
*Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread
New mail
*Same as unlocked:* K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread
New mail
As it stands, my options are a) notifications that show everything (bad
for privacy), or b) notifications that only show the number of unread
emails in each account’s inbox. I would prefer “Message count and senders”,
if it worked; that would tell me all I need to know without sensitive
personal information to a snoop.
I’m using K-9 Mail v5.403 (the latest as of this writing) on an Asus
Zenfone 3 (ZE552KL) with Android 8.0.
Does anyone else have this problem? And is there any way to fix it?
My thanks to anyone who replies.
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David W. Jones
2018-11-12 07:37:18 UTC
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Well, I only have Android 5.1 here. Lock screen notification shows only
sender, subject, mail account, number of emails. I didn't try any of the
other settings. I have no idea what interactions might be going on
between K-9 and Android 8's lock screen.
For the record, I still need help with this, if anyone’s around.
New phone: Samsung Galaxy S8+
New Android: v8.0.0
New K-9 Mail: v5.600
Same problem. Lock screen notifications either display everything –
sender, subject, body, etc. – or (with “Hide subjects in notifications”
enabled) only which account received the email and the email count. The
granular control under Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications doesn’t
work at all.
Would really appreciate any help here.
Hello,
I have a problem where whatever setting I choose under Settings →
Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications (such as “Application
name”, “Message count and senders”, etc.) is ignored; K-9
notifications are always the same regardless. This changes when I
hide subject lines under Settings → Privacy → Hide subject in
notifications, in which case my “Lock Screen Notifications” setting
is /still/ ignored, but I get a different notification instead.
The only “Lock Screen Notifications” setting that /does/ work is “No
lock screen notifications”, which hides them as expected.
I’ve run a battery of tests, and here’s a table of the results for
_*Hide Subject OFF*_
*No lock screen notifications:* [none]
*<Sender Name>*
      <subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
          <subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
                                              <subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
                                              <subject line>
_*Hide Subjects ON*_
*No lock screen notifications:* [none]
*App name:*      K-9 Mail
      New mail
*Unread count:*        K-9 Mail
      New mail
*Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail
      New mail
*Same as unlocked:*       K-9 Mail
      New mail
As it stands, my options are a) notifications that show everything
(bad for privacy), or b) notifications that only show the number of
unread emails in each account’s inbox. I would prefer “Message count
and senders”, if it worked; that would tell me all I need to know
without sensitive personal information to a snoop.
I’m using K-9 Mail v5.403 (the latest as of this writing) on an Asus
Zenfone 3 (ZE552KL) with Android 8.0.
Does anyone else have this problem? And is there any way to fix it?
My thanks to anyone who replies.
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Joé McKen
2018-11-12 07:51:11 UTC
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Sounds like you have “message count and senders” – precisely what I’d like
to have on mine, if only the setting would work 

Post by David W. Jones
Well, I only have Android 5.1 here. Lock screen notification shows only
sender, subject, mail account, number of emails. I didn't try any of the
other settings. I have no idea what interactions might be going on
between K-9 and Android 8's lock screen.
Post by Joé McKen
For the record, I still need help with this, if anyone’s around.
New phone: Samsung Galaxy S8+
New Android: v8.0.0
New K-9 Mail: v5.600
Same problem. Lock screen notifications either display everything –
sender, subject, body, etc. – or (with “Hide subjects in notifications”
enabled) only which account received the email and the email count. The
granular control under Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications doesn’t
work at all.
Would really appreciate any help here.
Hello,
I have a problem where whatever setting I choose under Settings →
Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications (such as “Application
name”, “Message count and senders”, etc.) is ignored; K-9
notifications are always the same regardless. This changes when I
hide subject lines under Settings → Privacy → Hide subject in
notifications, in which case my “Lock Screen Notifications” setting
is /still/ ignored, but I get a different notification instead.
The only “Lock Screen Notifications” setting that /does/ work is “No
lock screen notifications”, which hides them as expected.
I’ve run a battery of tests, and here’s a table of the results for
_*Hide Subject OFF*_
*No lock screen notifications:* [none]
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
<javascript:>
Post by Joé McKen
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
<javascript:>
Post by Joé McKen
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
_*Hide Subjects ON*_
*No lock screen notifications:* [none]
*App name:* K-9 Mail
New mail
*Unread count:* K-9 Mail
New mail
*Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail
New mail
*Same as unlocked:* K-9 Mail
New mail
As it stands, my options are a) notifications that show everything
(bad for privacy), or b) notifications that only show the number of
unread emails in each account’s inbox. I would prefer “Message count
and senders”, if it worked; that would tell me all I need to know
without sensitive personal information to a snoop.
I’m using K-9 Mail v5.403 (the latest as of this writing) on an Asus
Zenfone 3 (ZE552KL) with Android 8.0.
Does anyone else have this problem? And is there any way to fix it?
My thanks to anyone who replies.
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David W. Jones
2018-11-12 08:03:52 UTC
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Just checked. What I have is Lock Screen Notifications > Unread message
count. So if it's showing me what I see sender, subject, mail count,
then I guess the setting isn't working right here, either?
Sounds like you have “message count and senders” – precisely what I’d
like to have on mine, if only the setting would work …
Well, I only have Android 5.1 here. Lock screen notification shows only
sender, subject, mail account, number of emails. I didn't try any of the
other settings. I have no idea what interactions might be going on
between K-9 and Android 8's lock screen.
For the record, I still need help with this, if anyone’s around.
New phone: Samsung Galaxy S8+
New Android: v8.0.0
New K-9 Mail: v5.600
Same problem. Lock screen notifications either display everything –
sender, subject, body, etc. – or (with “Hide subjects in
notifications”
enabled) only which account received the email and the email
count. The
granular control under Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications
doesn’t
work at all.
Would really appreciate any help here.
    Hello,
    I have a problem where whatever setting I choose under
Settings →
    Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications (such as “Application
    name”, “Message count and senders”, etc.) is ignored; K-9
    notifications are always the same regardless. This changes
when I
    hide subject lines under Settings → Privacy → Hide subject in
    notifications, in which case my “Lock Screen Notifications”
setting
    is /still/ ignored, but I get a different notification instead.
    The only “Lock Screen Notifications” setting that /does/ work
is “No
    lock screen notifications”, which hides them as expected.
    I’ve run a battery of tests, and here’s a table of the
results for
    _*Hide Subject OFF*_
    *No lock screen notifications:* [none]
    *<Sender Name>*
           <subject line>
    *<Sender Name>*
               <subject line>
    *<Sender Name>*
                                                   <subject line>
    *<Sender Name>*
                                                   <subject line>
    _*Hide Subjects ON*_
    *No lock screen notifications:* [none]
    *App name:*      K-9 Mail
           New mail
    *Unread count:*        K-9 Mail
           New mail
    *Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail
           New mail
    *Same as unlocked:*       K-9 Mail
           New mail
    As it stands, my options are a) notifications that show
everything
    (bad for privacy), or b) notifications that only show the
number of
    unread emails in each account’s inbox. I would prefer
“Message count
    and senders”, if it worked; that would tell me all I need to
know
    without sensitive personal information to a snoop.
    I’m using K-9 Mail v5.403 (the latest as of this writing) on
an Asus
    Zenfone 3 (ZE552KL) with Android 8.0.
    Does anyone else have this problem? And is there any way to
fix it?
    My thanks to anyone who replies.
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Joé McKen
2018-11-12 08:35:21 UTC
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I couldn’t say for sure, since I never had the setting work for me, but
sounds like a lot more than just “unread message count”, yeah.

I’ve opened a bug report over at GitHub
<https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/issues/3707>, and the devs there seem pretty
active, so we’ll see whether anything comes of it.
Post by David W. Jones
Just checked. What I have is Lock Screen Notifications > Unread message
count. So if it's showing me what I see sender, subject, mail count,
then I guess the setting isn't working right here, either?
Post by Joé McKen
Sounds like you have “message count and senders” – precisely what I’d
like to have on mine, if only the setting would work 

Well, I only have Android 5.1 here. Lock screen notification shows
only
Post by Joé McKen
sender, subject, mail account, number of emails. I didn't try any of the
other settings. I have no idea what interactions might be going on
between K-9 and Android 8's lock screen.
Post by Joé McKen
For the record, I still need help with this, if anyone’s around.
New phone: Samsung Galaxy S8+
New Android: v8.0.0
New K-9 Mail: v5.600
Same problem. Lock screen notifications either display everything
–
Post by Joé McKen
Post by Joé McKen
sender, subject, body, etc. – or (with “Hide subjects in
notifications”
Post by Joé McKen
enabled) only which account received the email and the email
count. The
Post by Joé McKen
granular control under Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications
doesn’t
Post by Joé McKen
work at all.
Would really appreciate any help here.
On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 3:54:04 AM UTC-4, Joé McKen
Hello,
I have a problem where whatever setting I choose under
Settings →
Post by Joé McKen
Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications (such as
“Application
Post by Joé McKen
Post by Joé McKen
name”, “Message count and senders”, etc.) is ignored; K-9
notifications are always the same regardless. This changes
when I
Post by Joé McKen
hide subject lines under Settings → Privacy → Hide subject in
notifications, in which case my “Lock Screen Notifications”
setting
Post by Joé McKen
is /still/ ignored, but I get a different notification
instead.
Post by Joé McKen
Post by Joé McKen
The only “Lock Screen Notifications” setting that /does/ work
is “No
Post by Joé McKen
lock screen notifications”, which hides them as expected.
I’ve run a battery of tests, and here’s a table of the
results for
Post by Joé McKen
_*Hide Subject OFF*_
*No lock screen notifications:* [none]
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
*<Sender Name>*
<subject line>
_*Hide Subjects ON*_
*No lock screen notifications:* [none]
*App name:* K-9 Mail
New mail
*Unread count:* K-9 Mail
New mail
*Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail
New mail
*Same as unlocked:* K-9 Mail
New mail
As it stands, my options are a) notifications that show
everything
Post by Joé McKen
(bad for privacy), or b) notifications that only show the
number of
Post by Joé McKen
unread emails in each account’s inbox. I would prefer
“Message count
Post by Joé McKen
and senders”, if it worked; that would tell me all I need to
know
Post by Joé McKen
without sensitive personal information to a snoop.
I’m using K-9 Mail v5.403 (the latest as of this writing) on
an Asus
Post by Joé McKen
Zenfone 3 (ZE552KL) with Android 8.0.
Does anyone else have this problem? And is there any way to
fix it?
Post by Joé McKen
My thanks to anyone who replies.
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wandering the landscape of god
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